Angelica's Antics

[Angelica Teach]

I'm a little late but I'm here now and that's all that matters. I had a good run in this game and I'd like to thank Jesus for giving me that opportunity. Now, let's get down to business.

First of all, for all of those who think I had Hook wrapped around my finger it was quite opposite. He did most of the talking to other players and most of the decision making. I just followed in his footsteps. I was sociable I was likable but I really couldn't have done any of that without my closest allies so thank you to them.


Hook, being you were one of my closest allies I was wondering if you really did plan on taking me to the end or if the results of one specific challenge in which I was named most adorable and most likely to win is something that made you rethink that. If so, why (dumb question but answer it for me anyways)


Rosie, here's what I don't get you keep trying to tell me that Hook never planned on taking me to the end and kept talking about how he voted me out or something like that. You keep talking about round 4, but I was voted out in round 5. I also knew everything he told in round 5 to get you to change your vote yet you said you didn't have time because you were sleeping. What you're not telling me is why did you go against me in the first place? Why did you put my name down to being with when I thought we were all working together and why did you ignore me twice when I tried to message you that round?


Crunch, blah... after reading all your responses I'm just annoyed. You're throwing Rosie and Hook under a bus to gain sympathy and votes which a piss poor way of campaigning. I never once said to you that I thought Rosie and Hook were together and going against me. Unless you have proof you need to just throw that out the window because it's not true. In fact we didn't speak much at all other than the week Kitana was voted out. So this...

I'm not makin' this shit up. Angelica said she thought you 3 had a F3 alliance...

Where did I say that, where? I never once said that because I thought Rosie and Hook were totally loyal to me. I really hate it when people choose to lie and twist shit around to try and get votes. It's ridiculous.

[Rosie]

Angelica
We have already talked about this on Skype, but I will reiterate.

First of all, i want to start off by saying that I was on vicadin for most of this game due to surgery, so some of my memory is fuzzy. But the main points, are clear to me.

I showed you the conversation Hook and I had where he said he wasn't sure he wanted to take you to the finals because he thought he couldn't win against you. I agreed with him and at that point, we agreed that you would go. I don't think it was F4 agreed on in that convo, but i could be wrong.

I was also working with Crunch and Morgan to stay off their radar and they were willing to vote you at F5 and so i told Hook and told him I had voted you. Then, he REMINDED me that we would need your vote and you couldn't go that round. He told me to change my vote to Morgan.

Like, I said, I was on Vicadin and fell asleep. When I woke up, it was too late.

I also told you that my Skype is usually on, even if I'm not at my computer (bad habit, I know)... but I don't remember you ever saying anything other than "Hey".... if you wanted to talk game, you should have PMd me or inboxed me on FB to make sure I got it. I wasn't ignoring you like you have implied. I get on Skype and there are lots of messages saying "HI" or "Hey" that i don't respond to. Is it a bad habit? Maybe, but it's what happens.

I hope this answers all your questions. I am really not trying to hide anything and have told you to the best of my memory. Unfortunately in this game, I didn't keep a game log like I usually do, which was a mistake. I do that most times because I play several games at a time and tend to not remember every little thing.

Thank you for your questions, and good luck with your decision.
Rosie <3

[James T. Hook]

Hook, being you were one of my closest allies I was wondering if you really did plan on taking me to the end or if the results of one specific challenge in which I was named most adorable and most likely to win is something that made you rethink that. If so, why (dumb question but answer it for me anyways)

Honestly, the survey challenge where you got all those good things did make me think about how I was going to win against you and if it was even possible. But my loyalty to you still never wavered. My plan (if it had gone down this way) was at Final 5, You, Me, Rosie all vote for Crunch. That left us in the F4 with Morgan. I knew that your vote was very important to me staying out of danger and potentially being voted out. So if you were around at F4, I know I told Rosie that I'd vote for you but I would not have. You knew everything that was going down because I told you what the conversations between Rosie and myself were about and even showed you said conversations. So I did know even when we were at F6 and F5 that it was probably going to come down to a tiebreaker challenge at the Final 4. I just had to make sure that I would not be the one involved in that if I wasn't the one who won the final immunity.

Now depending on who won the final immunity challenge... the 2 votes probably would have gone to you if Rosie and Morgan teamed up, and this is still under the assumption that I would vote with Rosie. But actually, I would've voted with you for either Rosie or Morgan, again depending on who won immunity if I didn't win it.

I realize there was a lot riding on you staying in F5 and who would've won F4 but I had contingencies plans for all those scenarios. I was trying to stay loyal to everyone and it was completely impossible. It wasn't going to happen so instead of choosing, I basically forced the situation to where you guys would have to turn on each other. Unfortunately, there was a misunderstanding and Rosie voted you a round earlier. Considering the fact that I was such a huge threat and big target in the game, I did what I had to do in order to stay away from getting votes and that's exactly what happened.

I hope that answers your question and good luck voting.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Hi Angelica,

Crunch, blah... after reading all your responses I'm just annoyed. You're throwing Rosie and Hook under a bus to gain sympathy and votes which a piss poor way of campaigning.

If you're referring to my answer to Ruby, I wasn't throwing anyone under the bus, but I was trying to make people accountable for their actions (or lack of) in the game.

I said Rosie didn't do the last 3 immunity challenges, which is true. She provided reasons why she didn't do them, and it's now up to the jury to decide if that should influence their vote. But I don't see anything wrong with me reminding the jury that she didn't do certain challenges. It's true.

As for Hook, he did lie to certain people and turn on certain allies at the end of the game. I have never said that makes him a bad player, or a bad person, or anything. In fact, I have a lot of respect for Hook and how he played the game, and I believe he is very deserving of being in the Finals. But again, I don't see anything wrong with saying that he lied and backstabbed certain people to get here. Because he did.

The only thing I am sorry for is saying that Hook plotted against you. I said that based on what you said to Rosie in her Opening Statement thread, and based on her reply to you. But I realize I was wrong about that, and I apologize for that.

But ultimately, I feel that when you're in the Final 3, it's important to show not only why you deserve to get someone's vote, but also why the other 2 don't deserve it. I don't think that's low, or dirty, I think it's smart and it's a common strategy in debates, essays and theses. You're not really looking at the whole picture if you focus only on what you did well at.



I never once said to you that I thought Rosie and Hook were together and going against me.
Where did I say that, where? I never once said that because I thought Rosie and Hook were totally loyal to me. I really hate it when people choose to lie and twist shit around to try and get votes. It's ridiculous.

I think this might be where the misunderstanding was... I never said you thought Hook and Rosie were going against you. All I said was that you thought you had a F3 with Hook and Rosie. That's it. The rest was what Rosie had said, not you.

I apologize if my paragraph wasn't clear before, but let me try to explain it better line by line:


Here's what I said you (Angelica) said:

Mar 14, 2012 1:22:58 GMT -5 Cap'n Crunch said:

Angelica said she thought you 3 had a F3 alliance...

"you 3" referred to Angelica, Hook and Rosie.

That was based on what you (Angelica) said here:
Link: survivorpvnvr.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=ftc&thread=490&post=3629
Screencap: i40.tinypic.com/2znxwrm.jpg

That sentence above was the only part that I said YOU had said.


Then this is what I said ROSIE said:

Mar 14, 2012 1:22:58 GMT -5 Cap'n Crunch said:

Rosie said you and her agreed to vote out Angelica at the Final 4... but Rosie accidentally voted for her at Final 5.

"you and her agreed to..." referred to Hook and Rosie

That was based on what Rosie said here:
Link: survivorpvnvr.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=ftc&thread=490&post=3632
Screencap: i41.tinypic.com/157rqq.jpg


I don't know if that clears things up or makes it more confusing... It really was just a misunderstanding, and I see how I wasn't totally clear before... I just don't know how to explain it any better than this.


Thanks for your question.